MickMolloy
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I've heard this rumour but is it true ?
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Is it true that 2 visa overstays = auto 5 year ban?
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GlasgowJohn
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There are no definite rules, as far as I know.
It's also still too early to see how The Milei Team will play this one as well.
He has other priorities.
It's also still too early to see how The Milei Team will play this one as well.
He has other priorities.
MickMolloy
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Are you really from Scotland ?
GlasgowJohn
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@MickMolloy , yip , born just 10 miles south of Glasgow
MickMolloy
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Nice how did you end up in Buenos Aires ?
Betsy Ross
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There are actually 2 Scottish posters on this forum.
Are you referring to border runs or extending your visa? Can't you just overstay for a year and not renew? As long as you weren't leaving Argentina then they wouldn't know?
sangM
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What kind of "overstay".
MickMolloy
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90 day tourist visa overstays obviously
So you overstay, pay the fine and leave
Then you come back a year later, overstay again, pay the fine again, but this time they hit you with a 5 year ban
So you overstay, pay the fine and leave
Then you come back a year later, overstay again, pay the fine again, but this time they hit you with a 5 year ban
GlasgowJohn
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Long story ,@MickMolloy . But basically was on a work trip , met a young lady and decided to stay.....
sangM
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Ohhh ok got it. I'm new to this overstay business. I never talked to anyone that had problems. Where did you hear about this? Did you talk to anyone this happened to?
Most of the perma-tourists that I'm meeting have been staying in Argentina without leaving for up to 2 years. So I guess what you're saying is they can only do this 2 times? I would be curious to hear about actual experiences if you know of anyone this happened to or where you heard it from? Thanks.
There is always a female involved! Ha, ha.
GlasgowJohn
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Overstaying is strictly against the law.
But it Is seen more as an administrative misdemeanour than a crime.
If you intend to stay long term in the country I wouldnt recommend it.
If you only want to stay between 6 and 12 months , there should be no problem.
When I first started my long term stay in Argentina , I used to travel every few weeks , so there was never any huge need to go totally legal.
I never got close to the 90 days during my first few years - it was always 25- 40 days .
Then GJ junior was born and i thought I better get my legal status sorted....
But it Is seen more as an administrative misdemeanour than a crime.
If you intend to stay long term in the country I wouldnt recommend it.
If you only want to stay between 6 and 12 months , there should be no problem.
When I first started my long term stay in Argentina , I used to travel every few weeks , so there was never any huge need to go totally legal.
I never got close to the 90 days during my first few years - it was always 25- 40 days .
Then GJ junior was born and i thought I better get my legal status sorted....
Having your child probably made things much easier! I heard once you have a kid born here it is very easy to get permanent residency after that.
Up until now Argentina doesn't seem to care about overstaying. But that could change. I have met several tourists that have been living here since before COVID. Some did not leave the entire time since COVID since there was a lock down. Maybe that is why Argentina did not care. Another guy I met just left after over staying for 2 years and he didn't have any issues coming back again. He paid the overstay fee, stayed out of Argentina for 2 months and then came back. He was nervous entering again but had no issues last month.
MickMolloy
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My remote work assignment ends in Sept 2025 i'm at a crossroads between just overstaying what will be 2 years but then i'm scared if I want to live Argentina the rest of my life I will be hurting my future
GlasgowJohn
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You may have rights to get citizenship by residence. by then. There is no requirement in the citizenship law that your residence be legal. You just have to prove tht you have been here.
GlasgowJohn
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Yip when I had all the papers together along with GJ Junior's birth certificate , it only took about six weeks I think.
ultraviolet
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Sounds like a good reason to get a Porteña pregnant! I will keep that in mind. Ha.
StatusNomadicus
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Legal - Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?
I posted in another thread but maybe more appropriate here. I'm asking for a friend. Let's say you are from the United Kingdom and you have been illegally living in Argentina since 2019. You didn't leave to Uruguay to do border runs as you heard that it was better to overstay and just pay an...
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see above link. many Expats are reporting in the past few years that Immigration algorithms have changed. old-timers here are mostly unwilling to accept that this could change. overstay at your own personal risk assessment. i'm going to extend my 90 days by 90 days this month! 6 months ain't bad to get a Temporary 1-year Residency planned!
Russian women have been denied entry if they are suspected of coming to BsAs for giving birth. @Bajo_cero2 was representing some of them.
the old forum (it's censored and bad user interface) has some stories about this, as well:
What are the residency/visa options for the permanent tourist who wants to be able to exit/re-enter freely?
So if I continue doing my visa runs, is it advisable to try and add some official 90 day extensions to the mix? Or should I just stick to leaving every 3 month? Every time you cross the border, there's a (small) chance of being denied entry. Every time you visit the migraciones, they might give...
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well the lawyer Rubilar disagreed:
Anyone just gone full YOLO and overstatyed their visa for years?
There is a lot of theoretical posts on here saying "forget going to colonial, forget renewing, just overstay as long as you want and nothing bad will ever happen to you" Has anyone actually done this or is it all just talk ?
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Can a 30-week pregnant woman enter Argentina on a tourist visa?
Yes, its happening as we speak all the time. There are a lot of Russians coming to Argentina either pregnant or having kids here. I have a tenant in one of my Airbnb's that fits this profile now. Argentina makes it very easy for Russians to come which I don't think is a bad thing. Unlike a...
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nope, see my previous list of people for years getting denied re-entry. you guys gotta stop spreading this stuff. it exists!
i'm in the same situation. what percentage are you leaning toward paying the $7,000 USD for a lawyer to get citizenship?
but there is a bigger chance that the Federal Judge will deny this without a lawyer. i haven't read anyone saying that they have actually done this solo. do yo have a source?
this is called an Anchor Baby, a common thing to do in countries with birthright/jus sanguis citizenship.
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Wow! That is a huge group of Russian pregnant women. Are they all together or stopped separately? I wonder if they ended up letting them in. I have noticed a HUGE number of Russian tourists lately and I have seen a few Russian pregnant women. I didn't realize there were so many pregnant coming into Argentina to have kids but this video is an eye opener.
Russian women have been denied entry if they are suspected of coming to BsAs for giving birth. @Bajo_cero2 was representing some of them.
the old forum (it's censored and bad user interface) has some stories about this, as well:
What are the residency/visa options for the permanent tourist who wants to be able to exit/re-enter freely?
So if I continue doing my visa runs, is it advisable to try and add some official 90 day extensions to the mix? Or should I just stick to leaving every 3 month? Every time you cross the border, there's a (small) chance of being denied entry. Every time you visit the migraciones, they might give...
illegal alien
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@MickMolloy what factors will determine what action you will take? I am debating whether to continue with border runs which I have not had an issue doing. I am wondering if I am hurting my chances to someday live in Argentina legally? I hear about so many Chinese that have been living here illegally and just hire a lawyer and get Citizenship which gives me hope.
This matches what a lawyer told me. He also said overstaying is definitely against the law. He said that the government has just so far allowed to pay a fine and not a big deal. I am not reading or hearing from people saying they are having issues. Border runs seem like they are technically illegal just like overstaying. Breaking the law = breaking the law.
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