Argentina Rentista Visa for 2024? What is the minimum income now for retirement visa for Argentina?

[Digital Nomad]

you didn't read anything i wrote, Comrade Larry. i wrote a mini essay about all of this; how are you missing the entire premise? this is why i Mute you...you just make everyone dumber by posting here.

27Sep2023: "[...] an annual inflation rate above 100%. The portion of Argentines living in poverty reached 40.1% in the first six months of the year, according to figures released Wednesday by the government’s INDEC statistics agency. That is up from 39.2% in the second half of 2022."

Rising poverty grips Argentina as runaway inflation takes its toll

Homeless shelters in Argentina's capital are seeing demand soar as more people are struggling to make ends meet amid an annual inflation rate above 100% that is pushing more people into poverty.

apnews.com

18Nov2023: "The daunting economic landscape choking Argentine voters - The winning presidential candidate on November 19 will inherit a country with a stagnant economy, inflation over 142%, a 40% poverty rate, and minimal reserves"​

The daunting economic landscape choking Argentine voters

The winning presidential candidate on November 19 will inherit a country with a stagnant economy, inflation over 142%, a 40% poverty rate, and minimal reserves

english.elpais.com

sounds like the Ks who you voted for destroyed the country, and now inflation is slowing and the government's stats about poverty are slightly elevated. but like i said, who is measuring, and how can you prove it, with 80%+ in negra exactly?

here's something you won't like to read, dumb-dumb:

04Dec2023: "Days before leaving office, President Fernández questions Argentina’s official poverty rate - President Alberto Fernández has questioned the INDEC national statistics bureau, saying he think that Argentina’s official poverty rate is “badly measured.' On INDEC’s official figure of 40.1 percent of the country's poor, Fernández told the news agency that 'if there were that much poverty, Argentina would be exploding at the seams.' More than four in 10 Argentines are living in poverty according to the statistics agency, which is tasked with measuring official government data."

why not go argue with him?

Not sure on official poverty rates and what it is exactly but there do seem like there are a lot of poor in Argentina. You can't just judge it by the wealthy in a few cities. Overall throughout the country it does seem very high. I'm not sure what the official numbers truly are but poverty rates are horrible here.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

but poverty rates are horrible here.

sure, and there are subsistence-agriculture-poor folks in every corner of the world. most Argentines would never live in a place near where i was born, for instance:

Suspect on the loose after man killed in Guadalupe shooting

A man is dead after a shooting in Guadalupe on Saturday night.

www.azfamily.com

Guadalupe, Arizona (near Tempe/Chandler/Phoenix) is a shithole with shacks that don't have power or water, and 2 gang families continually shoot each other from an old tribal rivalry. if you want good Meth and Fentanyl, or you need stolen guns with no serial numbers, or sex-trafficking, right off the I-10 interstate you have a couple options because of the trash subhumans in Guadalupe.

poverty exists in every country...the difference is when people choose to stay in their echo-chamber families and never seek a different life. 'you can take someone out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of them' comes to mind for most people who choose to stay poor. the tribes in the Andes mountains might not want to become Argentines with DNI numbers; the Amish in the USA are the same. just because an Amish person on paper is "in poverty" doesn't mean anything about their quality of life of opportunities.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

Until I read about it becoming more of an issue or friends having problems, I will consider it safe to enter and leave the country frequently.

everyone ought to go read the updates on immigration/border on the other thread:

Legal Thread 'Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?'

Dec 19, 2023

I hate to admit this on a public forum but like many expats, I admit it. I'm a perma-tourist. I am American and fell in love with Argentina about 6 years ago. I don't have the money to go through the legal process to get my DNI. I would totally get it as there is no downside for me as I don't own any assets in the USA or anywhere else.

I previously came a few years before covid-19 and I used covid as an excuse to stay here. Argentina I don't think cared and they knew I was trapped here. But now I can't use that excuse. I was going back and forth with Uruguay but the last time I...

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[Aussieland]

everyone ought to go read the updates on immigration/border on the other thread:

Legal Thread 'Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?'

Dec 19, 2023

I hate to admit this on a public forum but like many expats, I admit it. I'm a perma-tourist. I am American and fell in love with Argentina about 6 years ago. I don't have the money to go through the legal process to get my DNI. I would totally get it as there is no downside for me as I don't own any assets in the USA or anywhere else.

I previously came a few years before covid-19 and I used covid as an excuse to stay here. Argentina I don't think cared and they knew I was trapped here. But now I can't use that excuse. I was going back and forth with Uruguay but the last time I...

• overstayed
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Things are definitely changing. Not sure if this is legal what they are planning but that has never stopped the Argentine government from doing something illegal.

 

[StatusNomadicus]

no new Precaria appeared at the 10-day-prior mark,

continuing on with the tracking of RadEx/Migraciones/Precarias, this week i was able to renew "Renovación" my Precaria on the Migraciones website as normal:

Consulta Unificada Migraciones | argentina.gob.ar

Estado de tu trámite Migraciones, Solicitud de Renovación de Certificado de Residencia Precaria

www.migraciones.gov.ar

i have an in-person appointment at Immigration in a couple weeks, so i did my daily check of my file (always says "In Process of Supervision" for 1-2 months at a time), and when i saw the new button pop-up (on the left) to "Request Renewal of Precaria" i clicked it (attachment "solicite"). even after all this time, at least since May2024 over a year ago, clicking still goes to an Error page (attachment "error").

so since there's an error, most of us would think it didn't work. but it did! look very carefully at the bottom-right of your status page (attachment Renovacion") and you will see a new date entry:

Fecha renovacion Precaria:

from here, you're done. it shows you renewed online before it expired (my Precarias are almost always 90 days, and something like 15 days prior you can renew online like this). you will NOT receive a new Precaria automatically, though. i always have to go the day before or day of (or once i went expired, or "irregular" according to the politically-correct bureaucrats there, lol) with an appointment and beg for them to issue a new Precaria for me.

nothing has changed, and the map to the Mendoza delegation is still incorrect (shows the Fifth Section, even though it's in Guaymallen 50 minutes' walk away). there have been zero improvements on these sites and the process in over a year; very disappointing to see the commies and parasites still very much in control of Immigration still.

in-person appointments still work, based on your province: https://www.migraciones.gob.ar/turnosAsesoramiento/verificar_jurisdiccion.php

(but my Mendoza delegation says all of that is Buenos Aires, and they have no control over dates or anything, and often tell me just to come in without an appt)

about 10 days out right now in May2025.

 

[Larry]

continuing on with the tracking of RadEx/Migraciones/Precarias, this week i was able to renew "Renovación" my Precaria on the Migraciones website as normal:

Consulta Unificada Migraciones | argentina.gob.ar

Estado de tu trámite Migraciones, Solicitud de Renovación de Certificado de Residencia Precaria

www.migraciones.gov.ar

i have an in-person appointment at Immigration in a couple weeks, so i did my daily check of my file (always says "In Process of Supervision" for 1-2 months at a time), and when i saw the new button pop-up (on the left) to "Request Renewal of Precaria" i clicked it (attachment "solicite"). even after all this time, at least since May2024 over a year ago, clicking still goes to an Error page (attachment "error").

so since there's an error, most of us would think it didn't work. but it did! look very carefully at the bottom-right of your status page (attachment Renovacion") and you will see a new date entry:

Fecha renovacion Precaria:

from here, you're done. it shows you renewed online before it expired (my Precarias are almost always 90 days, and something like 15 days prior you can renew online like this). you will NOT receive a new Precaria automatically, though. i always have to go the day before or day of (or once i went expired, or "irregular" according to the politically-correct bureaucrats there, lol) with an appointment and beg for them to issue a new Precaria for me.

nothing has changed, and the map to the Mendoza delegation is still incorrect (shows the Fifth Section, even though it's in Guaymallen 50 minutes' walk away). there have been zero improvements on these sites and the process in over a year; very disappointing to see the commies and parasites still very much in control of Immigration still.

in-person appointments still work, based on your province: https://www.migraciones.gob.ar/turnosAsesoramiento/verificar_jurisdiccion.php

(but my Mendoza delegation says all of that is Buenos Aires, and they have no control over dates or anything, and often tell me just to come in without an appt)

about 10 days out right now in May2025.

Good update. Thank you for sharing. I am glad I have my DNI already and never have to go through this again. Terrible process.

 

[Uncle Wong]

continuing on with the tracking of RadEx/Migraciones/Precarias, this week i was able to renew "Renovación" my Precaria on the Migraciones website as normal:

Consulta Unificada Migraciones | argentina.gob.ar

Estado de tu trámite Migraciones, Solicitud de Renovación de Certificado de Residencia Precaria

www.migraciones.gov.ar

i have an in-person appointment at Immigration in a couple weeks, so i did my daily check of my file (always says "In Process of Supervision" for 1-2 months at a time), and when i saw the new button pop-up (on the left) to "Request Renewal of Precaria" i clicked it (attachment "solicite"). even after all this time, at least since May2024 over a year ago, clicking still goes to an Error page (attachment "error").

so since there's an error, most of us would think it didn't work. but it did! look very carefully at the bottom-right of your status page (attachment Renovacion") and you will see a new date entry:

Fecha renovacion Precaria:

from here, you're done. it shows you renewed online before it expired (my Precarias are almost always 90 days, and something like 15 days prior you can renew online like this). you will NOT receive a new Precaria automatically, though. i always have to go the day before or day of (or once i went expired, or "irregular" according to the politically-correct bureaucrats there, lol) with an appointment and beg for them to issue a new Precaria for me.

nothing has changed, and the map to the Mendoza delegation is still incorrect (shows the Fifth Section, even though it's in Guaymallen 50 minutes' walk away). there have been zero improvements on these sites and the process in over a year; very disappointing to see the commies and parasites still very much in control of Immigration still.

in-person appointments still work, based on your province: https://www.migraciones.gob.ar/turnosAsesoramiento/verificar_jurisdiccion.php

(but my Mendoza delegation says all of that is Buenos Aires, and they have no control over dates or anything, and often tell me just to come in without an appt)

about 10 days out right now in May2025.

Thank you for keeping us updated. Do you regret not using an immigration attorney?