I'm sorry if I was wrong but I just hear a lot of people that are anti-tax and they use any excuse.
apology accepted. you can't read my mind, and i have nothing to do with whatever other fictional people you are judging
Still do not think it is right to totally evade taxes.
which is your opinion, and i have mine. my stance is correct according to the Liberty movement, and is shared with the Founding Fathers, all of Argentina, all Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists, etc. - i can't avoid all taxes; i pay VAT, 21% on all the nonsense in Argentina, sales tax in the US, vehicle registration tax, Airbnb tax, tax on Amazon orders, tariffs. we are taxed from cradle to grave on almost everything, and my entire argument was against tax on
overseas/foreign-earned income, which if you stopped watching Fox News for a second and actually read what i wrote, you could have educated yourself instead of calling me and Samuel Adams and Thomas Jefferson "criminals"
Give up your passport if you want to do that.
ooookay, i will. thanks for the permission, mom? wtf is the point of writing that? i don't WANT to give-up my US citizenship; i'm a fucking patriot that fought in the imperial wars that YOU voted for. i am sick of watching the tyrannical federal government expand, and i am peacefully voting with my tax dollars to effect change in the infinitesimal ways i can. obviously it is a huge sacrifice and a massive risk and a completely unnatural thing to do to find that renouncing the citizenship of the greatest liberty country to ever exist (until Argentina now, perhaps?) is the most logical path for someone. i know you're going to be butt-hurt, but people renounce their US citizenship every single day, and if you took a second to consider an alternate view on reality, you might learn something:
1. famous people
2. NomadCapitalist
3. WealthyExpat
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5. CryptoTips1
6. CryptoTips2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNJYecWoBcs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKIexoJTm6A
8. CNBC 10 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVWu9btCtA
9. CNBC 4 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sLZIau4U3Q
10. Roger Ver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzTnKTTyTko
11. Roger Ver #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbLHXOipQN4
12. NomadCapitalist #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqkuYeF5sgE
No reason to get hostile with me or use that kind of language.
actually, there's a great reason to curse; you accused me of being a petty criminal with no morals or values, and decided in your old age that there are only 2 groups of people - "criminals" as defined by your sixth-grade-level understanding of taxation, and good people like you who patriotically and unquestioningly pay all taxes that the federal gov't tells you to. i'm allowed to get hostile when someone makes retarded claims and accuses me of not being anti-war, when i base my entire life on the concept that almost every war has been unnecessary and evil. oh, and you thought you could read my mind, which is also fucking stupid. judge my ideas, not what imaginary evil entity strawman you're creating to represent me. and yes, Taxation Is Theft!
plus, why else would there be a profanity censoring part of this forum, if not to use it when profanity is relevant? i think what you wrote was fucking retarded and i was disappointed to read it, from someone who usually is wise and nuanced and has lived longer than me. yet the sum of your old-age wisdom is that me peacefully choosing to avoid OBVIOUSLY unconstitutional taxes like foreign-earned income taxes....is bad and i'm simply a "criminal"? lol, get fucked, you can cry all you want but you wrote something stupid and now you're playing victim when i defend myself. that's what commies do; play the victim. please please please read this super short 2012 book/speech by Ron Paul this weekend. you're sadly falling for the State's propaganda. and licking boots isn't a good look for anyone
Why does anytime someone disagrees with you all of a sudden they are a Peronist. I am far from that.
you worship taxes, claim to be able to read my mind, and have zero concept of what a Libertarian is. and you're from the USA where Ron Paul is from! and living in Argentina where Javier Milei is from! how embarrassing for you. oh, and playing victim is the Woke Left's playbook number 1 tactic. so you actually have more in common with national socialists than you think. did you know that? i don't remember calling you a Peronist, but if i'm doing commie stuff and being a condescending douchebag, i hope someone explains how, so that i can consider the alternate viewpoint
You are the one that seems to be losing out on rational thought.
this could be another Lefty tactic; conflict isn't a bad thing, friend! arguing is how civilization grew and grows. but instead of criticizing the points i made, you're claiming i'm "irrational" - this is a commie tactic. you should read this weekend and learn something, and maybe someday you will realize that just because someone wins a fight doesn't make them the aggressor...you're welcome
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Are you advocating for people to cheat and evade taxes in Argentina too?
ohhh yeah, i respect Argentines for being the world champs in government disobedience and tax-evasion. they should keep it up! as someone once said:
"[taxation is] unjust because the State is financed through tax and
taxes are collected coercively. Or
can any one of us say that we voluntarily pay taxes? This means that the state is financed through coercion and that the higher the tax burden, the higher the coercion and the lower the freedom." (Milei)
“When the state calls you a taxpayer, it’s equivalent to a rapist calling his victim his girlfriend.” (Milei)
Couldn't you make the argument all over the world that governments steal and not want to pay taxes?
yes, that is the Libertarian argument; everything coerced by the State is immoral AND inefficient, and 99.9% of life would be better if privatized. from National Parks to healthcare to security. everyone should use civil disobedience as much as possible to peacefully live the change they want to see in the world. for a long time, it was "criminal" to harbor runaway slaves. but that didn't mean it was bad; actually the anti-slavery folks from Classical Greece to the New Testament to the 1800s CE were all correct, but the NPCs of the time would have argued that slavery was legal :/
Do you have a big tax exposure in Argentina or the USA?
nah, i'm not a millionaire or from an upper-class family, just a regular dude who wants to see cryptocurrency liberate the oppressed around the world
I have read lots of posts from Betsy and she is the last person I would accuse of being a Peronist.
i just re-read what i wrote, and i said she was sadly becoming more like the tribal Peronists (who use the above-mentioned Woke Left tactics to silence their opposition, which i think is getting proved more and more correct every time Betsy talks about her State-worshipping love of unconstitutional taxes. i agree she's fairly conservative, but even Republicans in the USA veer-into National Socialism when it comes to their pet projects that they've been propagandized to believe
Not sure if coming to your new adopted country and advocating for evading taxes is the right approach. Good luck with that.
see above essay. literally every single Argentine is evading taxes on a daily basis. they are the ones teaching me
😛 are you new to Argentina?? literally every facet of life revolves around paying as close to zero on taxes as you can. and this is amazing, and echoed by the current President that taxes are violent coercions that should be removed as much as possible
great article today about how Foreign-Earned Income should not be taxed...which is my entire argument:
"[...]
US citizens who live overseas, however, have no such representation. There are no Members of Congress who exclusively fight for the interests of Americans abroad. Yet expats still file and pay taxes.
This is what the Founding Fathers called “taxation without representation”.
Here’s another example: people who are born and live in a US territory like Guam, Puerto Rico, or the US Virgin Islands, are US citizens. But they neither pay US federal income tax, nor do they have representatives in Congress.
So, in short:
1) US citizens who live in the US have both taxation and representation.
2) For US citizens who live in US territories, there is neither taxation nor representation.
3) And US citizens who live in foreign countries suffer taxation without representation.
If you think this doesn’t matter, here’s a crazy story that puts a human face on it:
After my article last week, we received another email from a reader named Dave— a US military veteran who currently lives in Australia.
Dave’s wife is not a US citizen. But they pay US taxes; recently when they sold a property in Australia, for example, they paid BOTH local taxes in Australia AND capital gains tax to the IRS.
The crazy thing is that Dave and his wife have been trying to move back to the US for the past few years. But their case is buried in the mind-numbing bureaucracy of USCIS (citizenship and immigration service).
They own a house in Florida. They have two children who are US citizens (and currently living in the US). Dave is a US citizen and military veteran. And most of all, they file and pay tax each year to the IRS.
Yet they have been fighting for years just to get a silly visa. And they’ve been told it will probably take a few more years at least until they can move to the US and be with their children… assuming they’re approved.
(Meanwhile the previous administration let millions of illegals across the border and showered them with free taxpayer money…)
Dave has no one in Congress to represent his interests. But he still pays tax. And he’s just one of many, many cases that ‘slipped through the cracks’ of a woefully broken system.
You can hear more about Dave’s story straight from the horse’s mouth in this video." https://www.schiffsovereign.com/tre...-through-the-cracks-of-a-broken-system-152841
