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Argentina Gets $16 Billion US Judgement Tossed on Appeal

But honestly did Milei or Trump really have anything to do with this? Judges at this level don't get bribed. This isn't Argentina. If anything Kicillof and Cristina are the ones that look like geniuses. What am I missing?
 
But honestly did Milei or Trump really have anything to do with this? Judges at this level don't get bribed. This isn't Argentina. If anything Kicillof and Cristina are the ones that look like geniuses. What am I missing?
No, as much as Milei wants to take credit it has nothing to do with Milei's relationship with Trump. My father was a Federal judge.

Neither Milei nor Trump pulled any strings to make this happen. The rumors floating around that Milei’s relationship with Trump influenced the outcome are pure political fiction, born out of the timing of the ruling and the fact that the two leaders have publicly allied themselves.

How the US Federal Courts Actually Work

This isn't a jurisdiction where a politician can just make a phone call to fix a case. The judges on the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (in New York) are lifetime appointees. They deal with some of the most complex corporate and sovereign litigation in the world.

Argentina won this appeal based on highly technical legal arguments -most likely centering on the "Act of State" doctrine (which prevents US courts from judging the public acts of a recognized foreign sovereign within its own territory) or issues regarding whether US courts were even the proper venue for an Argentine corporate dispute (forum non conveniens). This legal defense has been in motion for years, long before Milei took office or formed an alliance with Trump.

While Milei's government is taking credit for saving the country from bankruptcy, Axel Kicillof and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner are absolutely claiming this as a complete vindication of their strategy.

To their political base, they look like geniuses today. Their narrative is incredibly potent right now: "We reclaimed YPF, secured Vaca Muerta for the Argentine people, and we successfully defeated the Wall Street vulture funds in their own courts without paying them a dime."

Domestically, this is a massive political gift for Kirchnerism. from an international business perspective, the way they executed the seizure still destroyed trust and cratered foreign direct investment for over a decade.
 

It is funny how everyone is trying to take credit now. I think Milei called this press conference because there is a lot of chatter today that Cristina and Axel were right and saved Argentina.

No, as much as Milei wants to take credit it has nothing to do with Milei's relationship with Trump. My father was a Federal judge.

Neither Milei nor Trump pulled any strings to make this happen. The rumors floating around that Milei’s relationship with Trump influenced the outcome are pure political fiction, born out of the timing of the ruling and the fact that the two leaders have publicly allied themselves.

How the US Federal Courts Actually Work

This isn't a jurisdiction where a politician can just make a phone call to fix a case. The judges on the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (in New York) are lifetime appointees. They deal with some of the most complex corporate and sovereign litigation in the world.

Argentina won this appeal based on highly technical legal arguments -most likely centering on the "Act of State" doctrine (which prevents US courts from judging the public acts of a recognized foreign sovereign within its own territory) or issues regarding whether US courts were even the proper venue for an Argentine corporate dispute (forum non conveniens). This legal defense has been in motion for years, long before Milei took office or formed an alliance with Trump.

While Milei's government is taking credit for saving the country from bankruptcy, Axel Kicillof and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner are absolutely claiming this as a complete vindication of their strategy.

To their political base, they look like geniuses today. Their narrative is incredibly potent right now: "We reclaimed YPF, secured Vaca Muerta for the Argentine people, and we successfully defeated the Wall Street vulture funds in their own courts without paying them a dime."

Domestically, this is a massive political gift for Kirchnerism. from an international business perspective, the way they executed the seizure still destroyed trust and cratered foreign direct investment for over a decade.
Correct. Milei had nothing to do with this.
 
Actually Milei was the most important person of all, without his special relationship with Trump no-one in the USA would have known or,cared about the case especially with the war in Iran. Lazy incompetent judges would have just upheld the verdict to start their weekend early. Milei is why they overturned it. Thankyou President Milei
 
Actually Milei was the most important person of all, without his special relationship with Trump no-one in the USA would have known or,cared about the case especially with the war in Iran. Lazy incompetent judges would have just upheld the verdict to start their weekend early. Milei is why they overturned it. Thankyou President Milei

Seriously doubt it. That's not how federal courts work. @Nasdaq is correct. What Cristina and Kicillof did was terrible but they are just saying they were right all along and were proven right.
 
You nailed it as usual Craig. I posted about it this morning. I've been posting how FDI is actually net negative in 2025. Many companies racing to get out. They used Milei as exit liquidity.


Thanks Mike, that is very well written. I understand the populist reaction but seeing every politician try to take credit for it like Argentina just won the World Cup, it sends all the wrong signals.
 
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