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More than 20,000 Kiosks closed in Argentina over the past year (50 per day)

I'm not sure this is accurate. I know a few people that own these and they are far from wealthy. What did you hear this Barry?
Agree. I also know people that own these and they are struggling.

I don't doubt that there could some that are used for money laundering but I'm not sure I would say thousands of them are. Unless @BarryBloomWwf knows something that the rest of us don't.
 
It just sounds like besides the higher electricity and rentals consumer consumption is just done. No one is buying stuff. Lots of people cutting back on buying cigarettes, alcohol and stuff they can easily cut out. Listen to this lady and it just sounds like people are cutting back.

 
In reality when you go into a kiosko you never see the owner, they are all millionaires who own hundreds or even thousands, many of them apart of organised crime and acquired their locations through less than ethical ways. Its hard to feel sorry for them
Is this true? I always got the sense that these were independently operated. I'd love to hear where you heard this from.

Everywhere you look there is another place going out of business. What is going to replace all of these stores and locals going out of business? I don't see anything taking their places.

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I mean if 20 thousand just closed down ( Allegedly ) and there are still 80 thousand left, obviously they aren't independently owned lmao. That would be an insane amount of kiosco owners no ?

Yes I'm sure there are *some* independent kisko owners. But the vast majority are owned by very wealthy elite group who own thousands or tens of thousands, and use their cartel style monopolies to control the market and destroy opposition same as any cartel does anywhere including the USA
 
I mean if 20 thousand just closed down ( Allegedly ) and there are still 80 thousand left, obviously they aren't independently owned lmao. That would be an insane amount of kiosco owners no ?

Yes I'm sure there are *some* independent kisko owners. But the vast majority are owned by very wealthy elite group who own thousands or tens of thousands, and use their cartel style monopolies to control the market and destroy opposition same as any cartel does anywhere including the USA
Who are some of these owners? I'd think if there was a really wealthy elite group that owned thousands of kiosks it would be known. What group is this @BarryBloomWwf ?

When you research it online it shows most of these majority of kiosks that closed are independently owned. See below. I do agree that the corporate firms are growing but you'd be surprised how many families own kisosks.


The vast majority of the kiosks that have recently closed their doors are independently owned neighborhood shops, traditionally run by individuals or families.

The larger, group-owned kiosk chains are generally not the ones shutting down; in fact, their aggressive expansion is one of the primary reasons the independent shops are going under.

Here is a breakdown of why the independent "mom-and-pop" kiosks are being wiped out:

  • The Corporate Takeover: According to the Argentine Kiosk Union (UKRA), well-funded corporate chains are moving directly into residential neighborhoods. When commercial rent prices spike, the independent neighborhood kiosquero cannot afford the renewal and is forced to close. The large chains then swoop into those exact areas because they have the capital to absorb the higher overhead.


  • Plummeting Sales vs. Surging Costs: Independent owners are caught in a brutal squeeze between soaring fixed costs—like rent and utility tariffs—and a massive drop in everyday consumer spending. UKRA estimates that overall kiosk sales have plummeted by up to 40% in recent years as people cut out small luxuries and trade down to cheaper, second-tier brands.


  • Unfair Competition: The traditional kiosk no longer has a monopoly on convenience. Independent owners are losing massive amounts of foot traffic to pharmacies, greengrocers, and hardware stores that have started installing refrigerators to sell sodas, snacks, and candy.

Ultimately, the historic, independent Argentine neighborhood kiosk is being pushed to the brink of extinction, slowly being replaced by a more concentrated, corporate-owned retail model.
 
Who are some of these owners? I'd think if there was a really wealthy elite group that owned thousands of kiosks it would be known. What group is this @BarryBloomWwf ?

When you research it online it shows most of these majority of kiosks that closed are independently owned. See below. I do agree that the corporate firms are growing but you'd be surprised how many families own kisosks.


The vast majority of the kiosks that have recently closed their doors are independently owned neighborhood shops, traditionally run by individuals or families.

The larger, group-owned kiosk chains are generally not the ones shutting down; in fact, their aggressive expansion is one of the primary reasons the independent shops are going under.

Here is a breakdown of why the independent "mom-and-pop" kiosks are being wiped out:

  • The Corporate Takeover: According to the Argentine Kiosk Union (UKRA), well-funded corporate chains are moving directly into residential neighborhoods. When commercial rent prices spike, the independent neighborhood kiosquero cannot afford the renewal and is forced to close. The large chains then swoop into those exact areas because they have the capital to absorb the higher overhead.


  • Plummeting Sales vs. Surging Costs: Independent owners are caught in a brutal squeeze between soaring fixed costs—like rent and utility tariffs—and a massive drop in everyday consumer spending. UKRA estimates that overall kiosk sales have plummeted by up to 40% in recent years as people cut out small luxuries and trade down to cheaper, second-tier brands.


  • Unfair Competition: The traditional kiosk no longer has a monopoly on convenience. Independent owners are losing massive amounts of foot traffic to pharmacies, greengrocers, and hardware stores that have started installing refrigerators to sell sodas, snacks, and candy.

Ultimately, the historic, independent Argentine neighborhood kiosk is being pushed to the brink of extinction, slowly being replaced by a more concentrated, corporate-owned retail model.

I don't believe that, either the 20k number is highly exaggerated ( possible ) or the number of independent operators is highly exaggerated. 20 thousand independent kisko owners didn't suddenly go broke in the last year I know that. But anyway feel free to disagree 👍😊👍
 
I don't believe that, either the 20k number is highly exaggerated ( possible ) or the number of independent operators is highly exaggerated. 20 thousand independent kisko owners didn't suddenly go broke in the last year I know that. But anyway feel free to disagree 👍😊👍
Doubt it. This is all stuff that is easy to see in public records. Not sure why you can doubt it. These kiosks are just independent businesses. What is tough to understand? People buy or most likely rent a space and just put in inventory and then sell. Several on this thread said they personally know locals that own one. I just met a guy that also owns one. Seems like a fairly easy business to get started with.
 
Doubt it. This is all stuff that is easy to see in public records. Not sure why you can doubt it. These kiosks are just independent businesses. What is tough to understand? People buy or most likely rent a space and just put in inventory and then sell. Several on this thread said they personally know locals that own one. I just met a guy that also owns one. Seems like a fairly easy business to get started with.

"Several people on this thread" is a long way from over a 100 thousand in a city of 3 million. The overwhelming majority are owned by people who own thousands with some independent owners sprinkled in
 
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