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I could get behind the inspection piece, but I will say it can be really hard ($$$, which lots of cities don't have to spare) for cities to be able to monitor that short term rentals in their jurisdiction are all licensed. It's a lot of listings to go through, even though there are services to do that, and I've certainly stayed at short-term rentals that lied about their location.
Nope this is NOT difficult at all. Argentina said the same thing. People this is VERY easy. And you can even fund the employees for the city with Airbnb or charge a surcharge to cover it.

Argentina doesn't get that making a more regulated short-term rental system is great for everyone. Tax revenues increase, more accountability and insight on tourism, who is using them, etc. It gets local owners actually paying income tax because almost none are. You require a DNI #. There are lots of property managers that just have accounts in the USA and nothing goes through Argentina. I'm not saying that's bad but I can guarantee if Airbnb requests a tax ID # (DNI) and you don't input one they charge 25% more taxes. Mexico does this. If you don't put in a Mexican RFC # they automatically retain more money. I think it's like 10% more that the government automatically takes and puts it into a pile. They do this as many Americans don't have a tax ID # there so they get penalized for not having one.

Argentina can easily do the same. Make a local input a DNI #. If it's American owned, by law you have to have a local tax representative anyway. It's the law. And I can GUARANTEE you that NO accountant will want this responsibility so you figure out some big % that people have to pay if they don't input DNI #. Trust me, things would get figured out very quickly!!

My guess is you'd have 50% to 65% of the Airbnbs that are owned by locals and renting out short-term if they have to input their DNI # they will go back to long term rentals and more into the shadows. The government just needs to know how to structure this and I could help them. I offered the same help back when I owned the largest property management company in Argentina. I wanted the industry regulated because all my clients were paying taxes. I knew right away that we would have a HUGE advantage because we were already paying taxes anyway. But Argentina never wanted to regulate it because my hunch is all the politicians and their families and their friends ALL own real estate and all renting it on Airbnb now. But it would be glorious for all the non-resident foreigners that are already paying taxes. I can promise you they won't care about putting in their DNI #'s on their website. You have to have a common sense approach.

That's why people like me will always hope for regulation because I know it will cause me to get even more business as most of the locals will drop off the face of the Airbnb earth if the government instituted a policy like this. And all the people complaining about Airbnb on this board and saying how it hurts locals, will find themselves with Airbnb's that might be 50% to 75% more expensive. Plus if the government gets serious, you may have to pay 19% IVA plus 2% city taxes. This is added on to tenant end, not owner end. Owner pays 3% commission to Airbnb plus any retention or income taxes that Argentina tells Airbnb to pay it.

You could easily set up inspectors. This is NOT hard. I used to buy and manage hundreds of properties and I'd go and inspect most of them myself with my business partner on a monthly basis to "spot" check them. Salaries are dirt cheap in Argentina!! You could easily hire an inspection division. I could set it up within a week. I'm not joking. Some lawyers are only making like $500 US dollars per MONTH right now. I could easily hire and train an army of employees and inspectors and regulate the Airbnb industry in Argentina within WEEKS.

So no real excuses why this can't be done..
 
I could get behind the inspection piece, but I will say it can be really hard ($$$, which lots of cities don't have to spare) for cities to be able to monitor that short term rentals in their jurisdiction are all licensed. It's a lot of listings to go through, even though there are services to do that, and I've certainly stayed at short-term rentals that lied about their location.
I think earlyretirement is spot-on with his post above. I hear what you are saying Julia. Yes, governments around the world are strapped for cash but it seems like an annual licensing program could be self-funding. Listing platforms make it easy to see who is doing what, although you won't catch all of them (STRs). Not suggesting they charge a huge fee, but I suspect annual licensing requirements would weed out a fair share of the bad hosts/Airbnbs.

I recently wrapped up a 12-week visit to Argentina and stayed in 8 different Airbnbs, all of which had 5-star ratings or close to it. Three were super-fantastic and deserved a +5 star rating; the hosts were amazingly professional. Three were average, one was below average, and the eighth was a complete disaster (in Belgrano of all places) that we left after one night, whose owner laughably told us we had inconvenienced him by leaving early.

More and more travelers are complaining about Airbnb, presenting an opportunity for cities to regain control from the platform and quite likely improve and increase tourism and housing overall.
 
I think earlyretirement is spot-on with his post above. I hear what you are saying Julia. Yes, governments around the world are strapped for cash but it seems like an annual licensing program could be self-funding. Listing platforms make it easy to see who is doing what, although you won't catch all of them (STRs). Not suggesting they charge a huge fee, but I suspect annual licensing requirements would weed out a fair share of the bad hosts/Airbnbs.

I recently wrapped up a 12-week visit to Argentina and stayed in 8 different Airbnbs, all of which had 5-star ratings or close to it. Three were super-fantastic and deserved a +5 star rating; the hosts were amazingly professional. Three were average, one was below average, and the eighth was a complete disaster (in Belgrano of all places) that we left after one night, whose owner laughably told us we had inconvenienced him by leaving early.

More and more travelers are complaining about Airbnb, presenting an opportunity for cities to regain control from the platform and quite likely improve and increase tourism and housing overall.
Yes JeffR,

Thanks for your kind thoughts. I posted before about things coming full circle. Many places people are going back to taxis instead of Ubers. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE uber and mostly use them but many times now especially at airports, I'm just using taxis. They are newer, cleaner, right there and available with no lines and the kicker..... they are cheaper!

I think with property rentals it's the same thing. I Just experimented with Tik Tok marketing and I'm shocked at the results of how good it is. Making your own Tik Tok page and then linking it to Airbnb. I just got a $9,400 US dollar booking yesterday for a property in Mexico. He said my Tik Tok and within 2 hours of putting it up I got the booking. He came over and inspected it in person and he booked the next day with cash. Totally avoiding Airbnb. He did contact me via Airbnb but then I just routed him to my website and we closed directly. Other owners can do that too.

I think this trend will continue with smart people utilizing technology.
 

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Will have to see what's in the cards for Airbnb in BA..? Eighteen countries have regulated the market.

www.ambito.com

Ya son 18 los países que regulan los alquileres temporales: ¿cómo controlar su expansión en CABA?

Mientras se debate la modificación de la Ley de Alquileres, hay un factor central que hoy queda por fuera: el crecimiento de Airbnb. En paralelo, se hunde la oferta para locaciones permanentes.
www.ambito.com
www.ambito.com
www.ambito.com

Guerra de París contra alquileres temporarios

La falta de viviendas en locación tradicional es un problema en la capital francesa. Por la mayor rentabilidad, los propietarios optan por arrendar a turistas.
www.ambito.com
www.ambito.com
 
Will have to see what's in the cards for Airbnb in BA..? Eighteen countries have regulated the market.

www.ambito.com

Ya son 18 los países que regulan los alquileres temporales: ¿cómo controlar su expansión en CABA?

Mientras se debate la modificación de la Ley de Alquileres, hay un factor central que hoy queda por fuera: el crecimiento de Airbnb. En paralelo, se hunde la oferta para locaciones permanentes.
www.ambito.com
www.ambito.com
www.ambito.com

Guerra de París contra alquileres temporarios

La falta de viviendas en locación tradicional es un problema en la capital francesa. Por la mayor rentabilidad, los propietarios optan por arrendar a turistas.
www.ambito.com
www.ambito.com
For sure it will get regulated. Hopefully Argentina just doesn't swing the pendulum too hard in the other direction. They tend to overshoot when they do something and go too far the other way.

Me personally, I hope the regulation at least has owners uploading their DNI #'s. Because for us owners that are already paying taxes, nothing really changes. But for locals that own and aren't declaring, they will immediately take down their Airbnb I'd think. Inventory should shrink for people as owners shift to longer term once the laws are finally changed by the Senators.
 
For sure it will get regulated. Hopefully Argentina just doesn't swing the pendulum too hard in the other direction. They tend to overshoot when they do something and go too far the other way.
That sounds like what is going on and too late.

Yes. Too many so-called 'expats' don't live here. They are more like individuals on a tourist visa, yet they try to come across as seasoned expats who live here year-round.
I don't think you have to live there to know the country is dysfunctional. Nothing works too well there. I figured that out on 2 trips to BA.
 
I don't think you have to live there to know the country is dysfunctional.
Look, you don’t have to live somewhere to know it has problems. Argentina’s chaos isn’t exactly a secret. Turn on the news for five minutes and you’ll hear about inflation, politics, another economic crisis. Nobody here pretends that stuff isn’t real.

But saying a whole country is just “dysfunctional” from a distance… that’s a pretty easy take when you’re not actually living inside it.

I’ve had friends from the U.S. say the same thing before visiting. One guy kept warning me before he came down: “Isn’t Argentina basically falling apart?” That was the line he’d picked up from headlines.

Then he got here.

We rode the Subte together. Sat in a café in Palermo for three hours arguing about soccer. Walked past families out at midnight with their kids eating ice cream. The city was alive in that loud, messy, beautiful way Buenos Aires always is.

At some point he looked around and just laughed. Said, “This is not what the news makes it look like.”

Don’t get me wrong. The country absolutely has problems. Inflation here will make your head spin. The politics can be insane.

But living somewhere changes the picture. A lot.

From the outside, it’s easy to slap one label on a place and call it a day. From the inside, it’s people getting on with their lives, helping each other out, figuring things out day by day.

Way messier than the word “dysfunctional.”
 
Look, you don’t have to live somewhere to know it has problems. Argentina’s chaos isn’t exactly a secret. Turn on the news for five minutes and you’ll hear about inflation, politics, another economic crisis. Nobody here pretends that stuff isn’t real.

But saying a whole country is just “dysfunctional” from a distance… that’s a pretty easy take when you’re not actually living inside it.

I’ve had friends from the U.S. say the same thing before visiting. One guy kept warning me before he came down: “Isn’t Argentina basically falling apart?” That was the line he’d picked up from headlines.

Then he got here.

We rode the Subte together. Sat in a café in Palermo for three hours arguing about soccer. Walked past families out at midnight with their kids eating ice cream. The city was alive in that loud, messy, beautiful way Buenos Aires always is.

At some point he looked around and just laughed. Said, “This is not what the news makes it look like.”

Don’t get me wrong. The country absolutely has problems. Inflation here will make your head spin. The politics can be insane.

But living somewhere changes the picture. A lot.

From the outside, it’s easy to slap one label on a place and call it a day. From the inside, it’s people getting on with their lives, helping each other out, figuring things out day by day.

Way messier than the word “dysfunctional.”
I don't think you need to live here for years to know things are out of whack!

there are problems everywhere but Argentina is far from normal. I agree with you Jerry you can stay out if you don't like it. I would agree with the others that Argentina is dysfunctional but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Just the truth.
 
I don't think you need to live here for years to know things are out of whack!

there are problems everywhere but Argentina is far from normal. I agree with you Jerry you can stay out if you don't like it. I would agree with the others that Argentina is dysfunctional but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Just the truth.
I've only been here a few months. A wonderful place but nothing works here. In a place where inflation is high, banks don't work and everyone demands cash, and not many follow up I would say the experts are right about a few kinds of countries and Argentina is in it's own league. And not in a good way.
 
I don't think you need to live here for years to know things are out of whack!

there are problems everywhere but Argentina is far from normal. I agree with you Jerry you can stay out if you don't like it. I would agree with the others that Argentina is dysfunctional but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Just the truth.
I've been here in Argentina 14 years. What do you mean 'stay out'??
 
That sounds like what is going on and too late.


I don't think you have to live there to know the country is dysfunctional. Nothing works too well there. I figured that out on 2 trips to BA.
Very true. But after a while you just get accustomed to this. Unless you are doing business here and already have your own place you don't have to deal with it too often. Most annoying thing to me is the dog sh*t all over, lines at the grocery store and all the noise. No one seems to care when people make noise.
 
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