Uncle Wong
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Yes Milei is not like any other President. I think that is already clear. Stuff is happening quickly. Doubt this goes through slow. Sounds like a game changer. I'm glad I started my DNI process already.
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Legal Any risk to constantly overstaying on tourist visa? How many times can you do border runs in Argentina?
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BosnianIllegal
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Ja ja but what about foreigners who bring large amounts of foreign currency in here and have never used the hospital system, free university or cost Argentina 1 peso ? What's wrong with that ? I have contributed as much to Argentina society as 10 000 natives and never taken a thing out. I cant even use the self checkout machines at the supermarket so locals steal 30 minutes from me every week waiting in line !
Deep down the authorities know this and people like me won't be affected at all. The fact Bullrich is heavily involved who spends 90 % of her time dealing with the northern border tells us all we need to know
Uncle Wong
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Well I'd say just get legal if you want to stay in Argentina for long periods of time. It's really not that difficult. I think it will still be very easy to stay in Argentina long periods of time just coming in every 90 days. I doubt they are really going after people with $$$$. Locals want stronger borders and the riff raff out. But foreigners like you could get caught up.
Just get legal would be my advice. If you have "large amounts of foreign currency". Just talk to a lawyer and get legal.
Cali Baby
Active member
This!!! Warning. An American girl that I know just sent me a WhatsApp last night! She has been living here since the pandemic. She has paid the overstay a few times and also crosses to Uruguay to get cash. She sent me an urgent WA la message last night to go check on her cat. She went to Montevideo for the night to get some cash and do something else. She tried coming back and she got rejected! The agent said they can see she is living in Argentina.
He showed her all the overstay fees and the border runs. She started crying. Maybe she shouldn’t have admitted it but she did. They rejected her! She can’t come back and her cat is here. Luckily I have a code to her apartment door lock and the doorman in her building knows me.
She is going to hire a lawyer. Anyone have any recommended lawyers that will handle this? Does she have any case at all? She already admitted she was living here.
James Bond
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It is definitely clear things are changing in Argentina and quickly. Look at some of the recent changes with immigration. Argentina does not want to turn into the shithole countries like other EU nations invited by Africans and others. I don’t say that to be racist but it is a disaster what has happened in the UK, Italy, Spain and other countries in Europe invaded by easy immigration policies.
Argentina are great but they are low key not thrilled with blank people based on my experiences. I know many in Argentina that would never date a black person. I don’t say that in any way racist. Just pointing out how it is. Many of my mates in the UK are black. When they come to Argentina people are friendly but both my male or female black friends can’t date well here. It’s not the culture for that.
CaliBaby your friend is not alone. That is the third time I have heard about such an incident and probably going to happen more now.
TonyWilson
New member
Are you likely to be denied entry if you’ve only overstayed once? I plan to return after overstaying a few months and want to know if they would deny me after one overstay
Betsy Ross
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Hi @TonyWilson. No! Don’t worry about that. This program is so new. My neighbor below works at Migraciones. Very high up in the government and they told me it’s not the people that just did that once as there are legitimate tourists that are here. They aren’t after them.
They are after people that have been abusing the system for many years. Over and over again. He said Bullrich and Milei are serious about changing Argentina. He said that Milei is worried about what he says in Italy and other European countries and wants to prevent that now.
So don’t worry about one overstay. They are not focused on that based on what he told me.
TonyWilson
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Hi, thanks so much for the reply and the information. I have one more question! I've heard it can be how many times you try to re-enter on a tourist visa which could sting you. In my case, when I return from my next trip it would be my third time entering on a tourist visa but only my first time re-entering after overstaying. The first two times I entered on a tourist visa was my first ever time in Argentina and the second was coming back from a weekend trip to Uruguay 30 days after my first initial entry. Will re-entering a third time be any trouble for me? I've been here since the start of the year, and my next trip is in August, this is the trip I'm concerned about re-entering after
Betsy Ross
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I just asked my neighbors that works in Migraciones tonight. He told me they will start with the habitual violators that have been doing this over 2 years. A combination of constant border runs (they can easily see this now with technology). He said they are hiring an AI company to work with Migraciones in 2026. He said they will easier flag all of these violators. He said that first it will be people that have been constantly doing this for over 24 months.
They can see if people are just staying 90 ish days and leaving and coming. He said now with technology it will be easier but they are going to make a push in mid-2026 with AI.
I don’t think you will have a problem. It might be a good idea to have an immigration attorney on standby. He said over 2 year violators first.
I think there is a fine line of wanting tourism and then people abusing how easy it was. Things are changing in Argentina. I can feel it this time. I know with Macri they said this time is different but it did not feel genuinely like change was going to happen. This time with Milei it feels like things are changing. Look at the CABA elections. That was exciting to see. The young love Milei. Even poor areas were voting LLA.
TonyWilson
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Okay thanks a lot again for the information! Did your neighbour mention when they will begin to go after stays under 24 months or under a year like in my case. I'm curious if these new restrictions will be made tighter very fast or it will stay the same for a some months.
Also, what does having an immigration lawyer on standby assist with? If denied entry can they help you get in?
fool in love
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I would assume once someone has been illegally staying more than the 2 year mark. So if you have been here less than 2 years but you are coming up on staying illegal here once you go past 2 years. I am not sure but I heard some lawyers online say that what the government is trying to do it not constitutional but the games and rules seem to be changing. Probably if they are successful in the elections this year in October they can do whatever they want. I’m not sure if that is good or bad.
In 15 years I have never read or heard about any individual being denied entry after one overstay, regardless of how long that they had overstayed or how soon they returned.
For the time being, your reentry will be at the discretion of the individual border agent who may be on the "lookout" for "abuse" of the tourist visa, and a single overstay isn't likely to trigger a negative response.
If that changes before you attempt to return, other members will probably write about it here first. I do hope it isn't a post that you have written at the airport while waiting to be sent back to where you came from after being denied reentry.
Blockchain
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Please keep us updated about this. I overstayed my last trip and I just paid the overstay fee. Then went back to the USA again. I doubt they will care about someone like me. I was planning to overstay again but maybe the smart play is just visit Brazil a few days and then come back. I wonder what the definition is of legitimate tourism and visiting Argentina and constantly overstaying and doing border runs.
@betsy can you ask your neighbor if there will limit the total # of days you can be in Argentina like Brazil does?
StatusNomadicus
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there are a few very blind people here who have insisted for a year and a half that i am stupid and 'haven't been here long enough' if you look at the quotes i posted. it indeed was easy to see; common sense is a serious country needs to enforce its borders. and i have been posting others' stories on this forum, with much push-back from a handful of oldtimers who give hoooooooooorrible advice.
i would add that HOPEFULLY the immigration system/RadEx/etc. gets fixed so that people like me don't have to wait almost a year for a Supervisor to approve my case. ideally the lawyers can f*ck-off and not be part of the corrupt system where they all make it hard and force people like UncleWong to pay thousands for a lawyer. in a good system, people who bring things to Argentina, with no criminal history etc., have a rapid pipeline to do everything online with periods of time where Migraciones HAS to approve or deny within a certain time, like 2 weeks. the current system where my lady and i on separate files are both waiting months and months for someone to click Approve is insane, and drives thousands of wealthy Expats away. i vote to decentralize and let people do the process themselves; of course for the 5% of difficult cases there will always be legal/lawyer options 🙂
unless the Federal Judges have the discretion to say no, that person was illegal and thus negates everything. for me, better safe than sorry. i would bet that 99% of people here illegally have just been lazy, and could have gotten residency. life has consequences /shrug
i have posted on a few threads, where i constantly debunk this silly New York City argument. i have proven border runs are illegal, and obviously Argentina doesn't have New York City prices. i can't believe anyone would make this argument. CABA's Palermo is not the 99.9% rest of Argentina, friends:
come deport me. have you been outside of CABA? i've been writing about this stuff for almost 1.5 years...where have you been?
many of us are the same, but for sure everyone should do things legally...the commies will never understand how protectionism and this type of anti-Expat mentality destroys their country, sadly.
@TonyWilson obviously no one knows, and there's a chance, so hedge accordingly. i don't think they should punish you or others, but on paper technically you might have a black mark on your immigration record. those assuring you are the same ones who lied to you that there will be no issues with border runs for years. so take it with a grain of salt!
bruh. why are a few of you here SO SET on saying this lie, over and over?? this thread has evidence. i constantly post links on this forum, like:
Betsy Ross
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I still don’t think it will be a problem for the over stayer that has done it once but the problem lies for the tourist that has been clearly living here for years doing border runs or paying overstay fee.
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