Newcomer How can this keep happening? Train collision in Palermo

[thor]

How is it that these accidents keep happening? With Argentina's history, especially after the Once Tragedy, when will safety regulations improve?

At least 30 people hospitalised after trains collide in Buenos Aires

Emergency services and police on site after two trains collide in Palermo; At least 30 people transported to hospital in wake of crash, but no fatalities reported.

batimes.com.ar

 

[Sunny]

With Argentina's history, especially after the Once Tragedy, when will safety regulations improve?

Most likely when this government gets a chance to get the country to a level where investment is feasible.

 

[Wally]

Most likely when this government gets a chance to get the country to a level where investment is feasible.

True. The government is so broke but I agree they have to prioritize expenses. I'd say the money is much better spent on things like improving public transportation safety vs. spending $600 million on used older jets for the military. It's all about priorities.

 

[Sunny]

True. The government is so broke but I agree they have to prioritize expenses. I'd say the money is much better spent on things like improving public transportation safety vs. spending $600 million on used older jets for the military. It's all about priorities.

They have not yet spent a penny on those jets, and they won't for a long while.
The railway system should be privatized ASAP, no government money should go into that.

 

[GlasgowJohn]

Rumors spreading that the accident was caused by Faulty signals / the cables had been robbed apparently.

 

[Wally]

They have not yet spent a penny on those jets, and they won't for a long while.
The railway system should be privatized ASAP, no government money should go into that.

It is doubtful that any private company would want to take ownership when rates are so low. It's the chicken and the egg. I doubt any one would be interested at the super low rates we see and any attempt to increase rates will just make people fraudulently not pay. It's not an easy solution.

Rumors spreading that the accident was caused by Faulty signals / the cables had been robbed apparently.

Thieves probably are stealing copper cables and wires.

 

[GlasgowJohn]

Cuáles son las hipótesis de por qué se produjo el choque de trenes de la línea San Martín

Una formación con pasajeros embistió a una locomotora que llevaba solo un furgón vacío en el barrio de Palermo

www.infobae.com

 

[Sunny]

Cuáles son las hipótesis de por qué se produjo el choque de trenes de la línea San Martín

Una formación con pasajeros embistió a una locomotora que llevaba solo un furgón vacío en el barrio de Palermo

www.infobae.com

La notificación para avanzar los conductores la recibieron de manera escrita, ya que desde hace 10 días no hay señalización producto del robo de cables.

Just as you guessed, John.

 

[James Bond]

Very scary that they don't have working signals. Definitely doesn't sound safe.

 

[Larry]

They have not yet spent a penny on those jets, and they won't for a long while.
The railway system should be privatized ASAP, no government money should go into that.

Privatization is NOT the solution. Milei and his administration want to privatize everything! And all the locals will be stuck and unprotected.

 

[Betsy Ross]

Privatization is NOT the solution. Milei and his administration want to privatize everything! And all the locals will be stuck and unprotected.

Why not? Apparently the majority of Argentina disagree with you and other Peronists. After all, President Milei won. All of these public companies are operated horribly. Most of them are losing staggering amounts of money each and every year. Look at all the drastic austerity measures and cost of living and people suffering and they are STILL supporting Milei. Why do you think that is? Do you think things were going so well with previous administrations?

How are people protected when these companies can't make money and became a drain to the system? People want to find some long term solution to this problem.

 

[GlasgowJohn]

Privatization is NOT the solution. Milei and his administration want to privatize everything! And all the locals will be stuck and unprotected.

Privatisation , not the solution?

So we stay with the current model of public ownership Years of under investment . ancient rolling stock, customer satisfaction at record.... lows. That doesn't make a lot of sense.

What is your solution?

 

[FuturoBA]

Privatisation , not the solution?

So we stay with the current model of public ownership Years of under investment . ancient rolling stock, customer satisfaction at record.... lows. That doesn't make a lot of sense.

What is your solution?

100 this. Privatization won't fix everything but it's the best solution. Nobody knows how, how much, or when exactly, but privatization allows for iteration over different ways to seek improvement where as the current model stagnates along at its current state.

@Larry if not privatization? then what? or are you quick to criticize w/o offering a better solution

 

[Larry]

Privatisation , not the solution?

So we stay with the current model of public ownership Years of under investment . ancient rolling stock, customer satisfaction at record.... lows. That doesn't make a lot of sense.

What is your solution?

I don't have solution but I don't think current method of terminating all the employees and raising all the prices is going to solve anything. Many industries in Argentina shouldn't be focused necessarily on making money. Many are for the public good of society and probably will never make money. I think you need to look at things like that sometimes. Without good public transportation that is affordable you can't get employees to jobs, etc. Not everything should be about dollars and cents.

 

[earlyretirement]

Privatisation , not the solution?

So we stay with the current model of public ownership Years of under investment . ancient rolling stock, customer satisfaction at record.... lows. That doesn't make a lot of sense.

What is your solution?

Privatization IS the solution. Great to hear the government is going to push forward on this.




The Argentine government, has announced plans to privatize several state-owned enterprises, including the Belgrano Cargas train line.

This initiative is part of a broader strategy to reduce the fiscal burden on the state by transferring public services to the private sector. Manuel Adorni, a presidential spokesperson, highlighted that the state invested approximately $112 million in Belgrano Cargas last year, emphasizing the government's commitment to privatizing entities that can be operated more efficiently by private companies.

The privatization of Belgrano Cargas is not an isolated case but part of a larger trend toward privatization in Argentina. This includes other significant entities such as Aerolíneas Argentinas and various infrastructure and utility companies.

The move is driven by economic reforms aimed at improving efficiency and reducing public expenditure on loss-making enterprises. The government believes that privatization will lead to better management and service delivery by leveraging private sector expertise and investment.

Historically, railway privatization in Argentina began in the late 1980s and early 1990s under President Carlos Menem, but was largely reversed in 2015 due to various challenges and criticisms regarding service quality and infrastructure deterioration.


The current government appears determined to revisit this approach, hoping for more successful outcomes this time around.

Overall, the decision to privatize Belgrano Cargas reflects a significant shift in policy towards reducing state involvement in certain sectors of the economy, to foster a more market-driven environment.

 

[Vince]

I saw the news. I agree taking companies private is better but I can't figure out who would want to buy these train lines? I can't imagine they are profitable.